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Old 25-06-2018, 10:12 AM   #11
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Maybe the extra centre lamp is a red one for when needed.
So if a locomotive is operating backwards and pushing the train there would be a red lamp in the centre of the buffer beam? I think you might have it there.

If that was the case should perhaps one of them on the Hornby model be red?

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Old 25-06-2018, 10:25 AM   #12
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I really don't know. I'm just suggesting a possible reason for there being two lamps.
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Rog I think you are possibly right. For use when the loco is running light.
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Many thanks for your input gents, that makes a lot more sense now.
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Is the rear the same?
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Old 25-06-2018, 11:40 AM   #16
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If that was the case should perhaps one of them on the Hornby model be red?
Probably had a red bulb. Lens was clear.
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Just spent a very interesting half an hour looking through pictures of these on Flickr. It is surprising the number of them that have the electric lamps either in disrepair or even removed completely and some with the lenses so dirty it is obvious they are not used.

Combined with many pictures of L1s with oil lamps attached makes it obvious that these lamps were not particularly relaible and oil lamps were frequently used as back up.

Eventually I did find one shot with both the centre ones visible and clean enough to be able to distinguish the lenses and I am certain that the far side lens is different to the other lenses.

I think Roj is probablyt spot on with his thoughts as regards a red lensed lamp in the middle. Thanks again gents
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There are dozens of pictures of Southern locos with lamps RFS. They are electric lamps. The discs were fitted above them in some cases.

Example below.
You might be mixing up "lamps" with "electric lights". The Bulleid pacifics all had electric lights, as did a small number of other locos which had them fitted when they were temporarily fitted for oil-burning in around 1948.

All locos on the SR carried route-code discs. At night the locos with electric lights had them switched on, whereas locos without these lights had the discs replaced with oil lamps.
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We were talking about electric lights that's why I said plenty of pictures of them with electric lamps. Anyway I think between us we have answered Bb's question.
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Old 25-06-2018, 01:42 PM   #20
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Interested thought RFS. When would they have replaced the discs with the oil lamps if a loco left in daylight and it became dark later in the journey, particularly if it was delayed enroute. Well maybe not that interesting?
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