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Old 21-09-2017, 10:25 PM   #1
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Hi,
I have this unusual point set up on my layout, and it annoys me that this probably isn't seen at all in the real world as its not very practical. (the track at the top of the image are sidings.)

Does anyone know if this sort of double cross would be seen anywhere in the real world, or know any model railways with this set up? And if it isn't at all likely, is it an issue that my track is like that?

I'd like to know what people think as It may make me feel better about having it. Changing it would cost a fair bit of money and waste the points I already have, along with it being a lot of effort. The reason it is like that is because I bought track and then changed my track plan after purchase, and due to space, and the nature of the rest of the layout, that is the only location for the cross between the lines to be.

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Old 21-09-2017, 10:38 PM   #2
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Take a look at this. Newcastle Station as was.
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Old 21-09-2017, 11:16 PM   #3
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Reminds me of Bromley South to Chislehurst Junction going out of London there will be many other strange looking point arrangements in the real world.....its a model do it your way...
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If it does what you need it to do it must be right!

Sometimes things were done a certain way to avoid the complication of facing points for example, but if it was really required it got done.
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@Randy........a good example of complicated crossings in use today, have a look at this webcam of Prague station........ http://www.railcam.uk/site/watch/any...ue&sz=la&alt=Y .........HB
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As Suzie says, if it foes what you want then go with it.
If you have space (I think your board joint gets in the way) you cold move the two crossover points (bottom left) to the other side of the junction point to create a better 'flow'. Then consider replacing the junction point and the crossover point with a double slip to save space and increase flexibility even more.
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As Suzie says, if it foes what you want then go with it.
If you have space (I think your board joint gets in the way) you cold move the two crossover points (bottom left) to the other side of the junction point to create a better 'flow'. Then consider replacing the junction point and the crossover point with a double slip to save space and increase flexibility even more.
The Double/half slip idea is ok but it will have trains reducing speed to use it more than the flow with the original set-up
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The Double/half slip idea is ok but it will have trains reducing speed to use it more than the flow with the original set-up
I was thinking more along the lines that a train on the lower line going right to left can't access the junction spur without crossing to the centre then reversing before heading off to the junction.
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I was thinking more along the lines that a train on the lower line going right to left can't access the junction spur without crossing to the centre then reversing before heading off to the junction.
I don't know if there's a up and down line and which way they would go....
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Thanks Everyone. I think I am happy now to leave it as is, it does what I need it to and its not a problem. Its only my OCD getting in the way at times. Also, I can't move the crossover points to the other side unfortunately as the track curves.

I found the Poppy line in North Norfolk seems to have a similar set up to mine. The left hand side of the double slip here seems like it was a more recent addition to the original track, as the sleepers are newer and the rails seem unused, meaning the original track is almost identical to my set up, and the track on the left is a similar siding to mine.
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