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Old 06-04-2018, 01:01 PM   #11
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For shunting you want something with a short wheel base and excellent slow running, so 0-6-0 is going to be better than 0-4-0. I've got a J94, which is silky smooth, and because of it's really short wheel base it'll cope with even the tightest of corners and pointwork. I've also got a 57xx pannier tank, but the wheel base is slightly longer and it really struggles with tight corners, which isn't ideal for shunting.

On the diesel front, the same principles apply. A class 08 should be ok, but again watch out for the wheel base. An alternative might be the class 03 or 04, which is still an 0-6-0 but with the wheels tighter together.
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Old 06-04-2018, 01:26 PM   #12
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How tight are your corners if a pannier tank struggles?
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Old 06-04-2018, 05:32 PM   #13
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I've got two Bachmann 0-6-0s and they run really well at very slow (almost imperceptible) speed - and I'm using insulfrog points (yes I know!) at the moment.
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Mine's an old Bachmann 57xx 0-6-0, and on radius 1 curves it grinds along and then derails itself. Always has. Might just be my particular model, I've heard of others having more success. As I understand it, the Hornby 57xx models have flangeless centre wheels, meaning they're electrically 0-4-0 and can slide over the top of the rails for tight corners.

I'm using insulfrog points too, and I find that my 0-4-0 locos have trouble with those at low speeds. My Hornby J94 copes with them fine though, even crawling.
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Might just be your loco. I had the old Bachmann version and it was fine on 1st rad.
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Sounds like back to back measurement is wrong to me coupled with large old flanges and or damaged wheels.
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Donít think Bachmann locos ever had large flanges, well not that large.
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I have no idea Brian, I have only ever had a couple of Bachmann locos and they are very new, last couple of years. Most of my stuff is Hornby.
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I think Bachmann came on the scene post big flange.
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Seems odd that a Bachmann small loco should have trouble with tight curves. I have some tight short peco points and my 2 Bachmann panniers go around them fine. In fact I would say that the Bachmann panniers are wonderful in evey way. Now could understand a 4MT having trouble with it's front bogie.
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